The Most Popular MTB Products Of 2022 + Our Personal Favorites...Episode 103 [Podcast]

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In this latest episode of the MTB Podcast, Jeff, Jared & Liam dive into the most popular products of 2022 based on thousands and thousands of data points. We also touch on our own favorite products as well as the very least popular product sold all year long. Tune in!
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welcome to episode 103 of the MTB podcast presented and hosted by
worldwide Cyclery I am Jeff I am Jared and I'm Liam in this episode we're going
to discuss the most popular mountain bike products of 2022 per category this
is out of the 286,923 products that we shipped in the year we'll also tell you
our personal favorite products of the year and the actual least popular product of the Year determined by
Jared's secret ranking algorithm uh well yeah I mean it's not that big of a secret I just looked at the least sold
products these these same products will also be shown in Greater display and Detail in
our upcoming YouTube video on the same topic so if you want to see them rather than listen about them keep an eye out
for that speaking of seeing us the MTB podcast episodes will now be back on the MTB podcast YouTube channel as live
recordings we're back baby currently waving at the camera for those of you watching this on YouTube so if you want
to watch the podcast recording it is there now uh well let's start boys DJ Green Goblin play a sound effect
foreign before we jump into the podcast I did want to mention Nika Nica the national
interscholastic Intergalactic you had that wrong Cycling Association on the metaverse it might they might change the
name to National Intergalactic sampling Association but for now it's just International uh oh wait interscholastic
that that name that name is stuff inner glass so if you're not familiar with
Nika they are a non-profit organization that is trying to uh make mountain
biking of all different disciplines a an accredited sport in middle schools and
high schools all across the United States which is pretty amazing it's actually a pretty large organization I've got a dozen plus two dozen plus
States like 50 000 kids in it I mean it's pretty big so a lot of people know about it but not everyone does because not everyone is deep in the bike
industry or has kids who ride mountain bikes and also go to school we are uh we
are big fans of Nika and donate to their cause because we really appreciate what they're doing and res resonates with us
we decided to put together this program called miles for Nika which we actually did talk about on the podcast almost a
year ago maybe so the way that works is it's we use Strava to record everything and so all of the staff basically record
their rides for every mile ridden between one and a hundred uh WC will donate one dollar per mile to Nika then
miles 101 to 999 50 cents miles a thousand plus 25 cents for every mile
written so that ended up in uh 2022 the the crew rode just over 39 000 miles
it's pretty good yeah it was pretty impressed when I saw that it's not bad you know it's not bad and uh yeah that
resulted in just over twenty one thousand dollars being donated to Nika and various Nika leagues so just
something to mention uh if you're not familiar with Nika check it out if you're trying to do a little more
philanthropic activities now in this new year take a look at Nika and it's pretty
easy to donate it's non-profit they're doing really good things helping kids ride mountain bikes which we like so
that's all that's all I got was that a humble brag would that be considered that no okay yeah well
we'll take it yeah sometimes it's like well I know this is actually something I'm pretty proud of
that we've done but at the same time I'm like oh is this a humble brag if I even talk about this yeah I mean we just have
to make sure that the kids uh you know and the rest of the Galaxy are getting bikes yeah that's true because after all it is Intergalactic so Intergalactic um
yeah when we get confirmation that we're just helping in the entire galaxy that'd be cool yeah I'll ask them for them yeah
please all right let's let's jump into these products there's there's a lot of them to go over and before we start just
a quick note on the fact of of how we picked the products for each category they're chosen based on either their
quantity sold or revenue generated or both plus the occasional honorable
mention yes that's an important thing in some of these guys what makes it an honorable mention well so so for example
actually perfect honorable mention that you'll like is the Continental tires so yeah the Continental Tires didn't end up
as like a top volume product or top Revenue generating product because they didn't really come into stock until what
Q3 yeah 2022. so they're not they weren't they'd end up being big sellers because of just for the whole year right
yeah for the whole year because but they're popular but they're still popular and they're still honorable Dimensions right you know gotcha yeah
and other things like I don't know some product categories or well I don't want to give it away but yeah yeah
I just asked clarification yeah well I'm saying some some categories are dominated by certain brands too so like
some other products that are really good that we want to highlight you know that also sold well we want to highlight those as well yeah so the categories
drivetrain grips tires handlebars Wheels Chopper posts and levers brakes Shadows
saddle Saddles seats pedals suspension maintenance
miscellaneous miscellaneous m-i-s-s-i-l-e and US miscellaneous
miscellaneous uh amazing yeah well wow fantastic here we
go drive train drivetrain was probably the hardest one of these to do because there's a lot of different parts that make up a drivetrain and we didn't want
to bore you guys and break out every individual like you're the most popular change you're the most popular Drillers
you're the most popular cassettes so we kind of tried to smash it all into drivetrain yeah which wasn't the easiest
thing to do but this was this list was pretty much dominated by SRAM as you
might imagine obviously shiman was a big competitor to SRAM but shimano's had really bad supply chain issues for all
of 2022 so it just didn't and Beyond yeah and and be quite bad yeah and
Beyond and Beyond so yeah so SRAM SRAM crushed it in 22 uh in particular GX
Eagle GX Eagle trigger shifter and driller the mechanical version mechanical yeah oh and the electronic
well that's a number two but the number one spot was the GX Eagle dream shifter and derailleur sort of combo the
mechanical technical variant of it which is cool GX is I mean ever since they redesigned GX when was that two years
ago something like that remember when they like refreshed the GX stuff yeah it's two years ago yeah
uh it looks so much better yeah and it looks like the prices it's just yeah I mean it's no wonder everyone's like yeah
I'm just gonna get that it's as good as the best stuff but less expensive yeah and only slightly heavier yeah yeah
especially if you're not you know looking to save grams dude gx's killer
yeah it really is and then uh yeah the number two spot was a GX access upgrade
kit so that's basically the kit that you can buy that has the well they called it controller in this case not a shifter
because it's electric and the derailleur so what else comes in that little kit charger charger battery detention
battery cover battery cover uh yeah coaster coaster with the QR code to
download that was the one we made a really funny YouTube video on remember that where we yes the story those are my
schedule wants to do also a little multi-tool comes in though yeah it does go with a really cool actually Nifty
lightweight multi-tool yep in the third spot
yeah what do you know about that well I'll tell you I think people are converting their you know two by three
by Drive trains to one buy uh yeah beg to differ I think really replacing e-bike Drive trains oh there you go
that's why you think that's like that yeah because it went away for probably two years three interesting and now all e-bikes are 104 BCD interesting there
you go I didn't think about that yeah we got a resident e-bike Rider over here
oh yeah oh I just ordered one of those the other day that's a good point and pretty much all e-bikes are 104 BCD
because most of them are coming with I'm not proprietary cranks but it's like but there's a lot of those Praxis cranks
yeah the cranks are driven off the motor and then the motor just has a spider they don't really have a direct Mount well boss you can't get a direct Mount
but uh most I'd say the majority of e-bikes are coming with a spider that uses a 104 BCD chainring Mount and
you're a lot more limited on the different cranks you could upgrade to on an e-bike yes because of that much so
and they're like old school it's just crank arms it's not a not a spindle right because it spindles the motor so
yeah yep interesting well there you go speaking of interesting the number four
product the SRAM NX Eagle cassette so the NX
cassette is uh it's not their least expensive one I guess SX would
technically be right yeah to make it is do they call SX Eagle is it SX Eagle yeah it's still 12 speed right yeah so
NX Eagle 12 speed but it does use a HG or what some people would call it
Shimano freehub body Amendment which is different than the GX and above yep which is XD for your body so yeah I mean
that's been a popular cassette for a while now because you can get Eagle on your bike with that cassette and you don't have to swap out your existing HG
freehub body if you have one yep sure yeah okay that makes sense makes
sense now now you should have done the ear interesting plug for this one what's so interesting
Jared about the NX cassette no I don't know about the next one I thought you were kind of going back to
what I was saying about the next interesting product well what's interesting about the Box group set I
mean it's a very affordable group set um that is solid that's pretty
interesting nothing huh crickets cool well
box I mean box Prime 9 is is is interesting it's it's definitely uh not srammer Shimano and the fact that it
even made this list is cool yeah for you know having a different take on a drivetrain nine speed uh very low price
point given what it does and is um yeah I don't know I'm impressed that box is there
so good for them yeah not easy to go play ball with SRAM and Shimano in a
patent Minefield yeah they did literally swinging at the biggest Goliath there is so yeah
and it comes in a box [Music]
if we didn't we didn't even make it what 10 minutes until the dad jokes now oh boy what do you expect last one of
this category uh number six not interesting just a GX Eagle cassette
yeah yeah I mean great Gazette great great set good replacement yeah just
easily predictable that it would be there before we move on categories though when are we going to say our
favorite products oh you want to name your favorite drivetrain product
I thought we were just gonna say favorite product of 2022. yeah that that
was what I was thinking in my head I didn't really specify though so yeah
we'll do that show okay mid show we'll talk about it stick around yeah we don't
want to make you wait too long we don't want to make you wait too long okay
grips uh this this is awesome I'm really stoked to see this uh the trail one
Hell's Gate grip was actually the number one seller for us which were really actual real data yeah
it is we didn't just make that up that is real um I mean obviously we we talk about it
a lot because Trail one is a brand that we own equity in and uh code developed and especially on this design as well of
that grip Liam and I personally worked on it a lot so um to get to kind of build Trail one on
the side of WC and then see a product like the Hell's Gate grip end up in the number one spot was amazing so we're
really happy about that um just kind of proof of concept we designed exactly what we wanted we kind of took all of the best features and
little tiny intricate details of all the other grips that we really loved and smashed them into one and it worked and
people liked it except for people who like extremely skinny grips known as
Jared oh I still like it well yeah but you don't ride it because yeah I'm just
not used to I mean yeah obviously if I wrote a longer like I'd get used to it but I'm just used to a thinner grip no I I understand I mean that's why there's
you know different flavors for different people the Hell's Gate grip is I would say maybe a mid thick it's not a thick
slim thick but it's but it's not like a thin it's slim thick mid thick mid thick mid thick mid thick it's thick with two
C's it's not fat which I also I will say in years ago I used to like a really
thin grip like the original Ruffian do you remember that thing yeah that's what you're running when I first started
you're like yes super thin Ruffian like no waffle no padding and then I slowly
then it was the Ruffian MX with the waffle on the bottom then it was the elite pro elite pro which will be pretty
much number two so yeah there you go then it was elite pro that's what I was running for a while I really liked that
grip and but then I the more I rode the more I was like man I just want a little bit more cushion there under the you
know the actual bones in the hand and just made more sense for those like bigger days on the bike or multiple days in a row on the bike especially the bike
parks and that's when I started deciding to adapt to a little bit thicker of a grip for comfort yeah I remember we put on those Elite Pros on your bike and you
went to Whistler and he came back you're like dude I need different grips yeah my hands are beat up yeah yeah it's just
not enough I mean some of those things if you ride outlier right you know if you ride one hour a day for four days a
week it's like oh you can kind of get away with anything yeah but if you ride consecutive days of 20 miles a day or
consecutive days at a bike park then you start realizing like every little tiny downfall in a grip
so anyways the ge1 is in the number third spot from ergon is that the grip you ride that would be the GFR one oh
you ride the GFR one yeah well didn't make the list I think the GFR one uh was
actually out of stock for a while and then I also like the GD one which is like the Slimmer version without the little things on it yeah all right there
you go there you go and in the fourth spot pnw loam grips it's a nice thin grip that comes in a
million different colors and is affordably priced yeah
whatever you want to call it fat beefy chunky Thin and Thick Mike Tyson here
let's move on to tires please oh my favorite category Liam's favorite category this this well I guess everyone
already knows the honorable mention which is the Conti tires uh the ridiculously named zynotol kryptol and
argital I I honestly feel like if people hear that they're gonna think that's a joke yeah I mean I'm not gonna SMS but I
mean you definitely spelled them mostly wrong well but like I said not gonna
criticize you because they're crazy who's gonna know how to spell xinatol kryptol and argital and then go
pharmacist knows how to spell all of them yeah exactly go to the Internet or our search bar on our website and type
that in yeah I mean I guarantee you that most people are are typing them the same way that you did yeah yeah spelled wrong
ridiculous Marvel mention or good tires they actually ended up they're sweet on
World Cup podiums maybe winning some World Cups did they win any World Cups this year uh not male
that one of them and I think that was just a Podium definitely been on World Cup Podium Kerr
got second he almost won okay at One race um they've been on definitely a lot of
podiums I know Charlie Hatton was on um um a few other guys from the r13 team
Atherton team did really well along with the pivot Factory team so yeah so definitely an honorable mention
something to take a look at there because those things are looking pretty impressive yeah but as far as weight goes Liam are they as light as the like
direct competitor of a Maxis Tire they are yeah they're I mean within 50 grams
yeah they're right there 50 Grand kind of hard for Jeff to swallow 50 grams whoa 50 grams here's the thing though
your tire varies like whatever the site says yeah your DHR 2 and 2.4 one could be 50
grams heavier than the other and it's the same special speaking of weight weenies I think at one point we had a customer who asked us like how many of
these tires do you have in stock and can you weigh every individual one and ship me the lightest one wow well I used to
do that when I was racing I'd I'd get my I see you are waiting 10 or 12 12 tires for the season from Schwalbe
they'd send me the whole box and then I'd go there and weigh them and then I would ride the heaviest in the early
season and then the lightest one of the more important races strategic yeah strategy yeah some of those are like 70
70 grams difference for the same exact tire from the heaviest to the lightest imagine doing that every time you got a
new tire oh hold on honey I gotta go to the shop
and order my set of cards I'm not taking it that far uh and I don't think the people who are in this you know the top
five tire buyers here yeah these tires did that either so number one dhr2 from Maxis
not really a surprise there I mean I guess if you had to pick you know what's weird the dhf didn't land on this list
yeah it's well it's gone man I mean oh the dhr2 is just kind of a if we would
have put all this has the same exact Corner knobs this would be just a list of Max's Tires yeah but you know we had
yeah we had to cut the cord somewhere yeah I mean DHR two I I personally run the dhr2 because it's available in the
widths that I like as opposed to the dhf yeah and it is lighter in the same size
as a dhf as exact same Corner knobs exact same everything except for the center tread and I think the dhr2 center
tread rolls faster and clears mud better so it's just kind of a more versatile and I think that has an opinion better
transition from Center to leaned over yeah the dhf has that pretty big uh yeah
Gap in the middle that leads to like a little Washi transition until the side knobs grab some people might like that
some people do and it works well if you have actual soil unlike we do here we just have hard packed dirt yeah yeah
true yeah number two position the Maxis acid guy ass guy that is a grippy tire I love
that tire that's a really grippy tire then the number third spot the dissector which I was kind of surprised to see
that here because it's not a super grippy Tire it's kind of more on that like trail bike fast rolling Tire which
I like and I actually use the dissector I have it on the front of my bike right now I'd be curious because the dissector
got a lot of OE spec this last year I'll be curious because remember the ardents were still super popular way after their
Heyday right they got surpassed by the tires but we're still selling a lot of them because they're so heavily OE specs yeah
and people just get whatever they came on their bike they just replaced the exact logo that's on their tires yeah
um a lot of people may be running it as a rear too I don't know yeah that too it's a good rear I like it in the rear more than the front personally
it rolls pretty fast good grip yeah it does number fourth spot number fourth
number fourth spot that makes sense delium rugged we talked about delium
tires on the podcast I don't know handful episodes back yeah but they're yeah I mean I don't think they clarify
their mission but their mission seems to be making really good mountain bike tires for essentially half the price of
everyone else yeah in the mountain bike world yeah and they're pretty much doing it yeah which is pretty impressive so
yeah good to see them making that you know almost on the podium almost downhill races technically is on the
large code yeah on a large Podium um yeah that's a brand to check out if you're going through tires a lot uh
deliums are half the price of basically every other brand yep and they're quite impressive yeah
number five what do we got church I'm gonna say it correctly now
do you think that's how I'm pretty sure that you know why the guy sent us a voice memo and I'm pretty sure that's right in some podcast or YouTube video
we said we weren't exactly sure how to pronounce that word and uh a German guy
sent us a voice memo on Instagram telling us yeah it was like no it's like
the c s c h v w that makes like a V sound uh German listeners out there
go ahead and send us the DM and let us know if I said it right again because obviously we didn't learn yeah
well we call it Schwalbe um the knobby Nick the knobby Nick was the
tire was the most popular one yeah um that one's been hanging on for a long time that's a good versatile Tire yeah
whatever indeed and then a uh the number six spot vitoria Mezcal the Italian diet
with the Mexican drink I was gonna say that's a it's a Mexican yeah alcohol well you know I don't think the Vito's
the Chianti really has for sure Mezcal is from Mexico and not from Italy or
Spain or somewhere else like with agave like it's grown in Mexico I mean the word could have two different meanings
and two different languages don't quote us on this one not an expert not positive I do know I drink Miss call
when I go to Mexico yeah yeah yeah yeah not wrong so we have some missed call
here and it's way too small I do not like it yeah it tastes like give me some 1942.
um yeah okay although Drake is 42. the next
category is handlebars but before we get into that we would like to hit you with
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and now back to the show handlebars one up components carbon handlebars they
reigned in the number one spot this is the second year in a row I'm not surprised those are those are really
good bars and they are to this day the only I don't know what would you call it like they have a actual novel unique
novel feature design um they they basically engineered vertical compliance and lateral
stiffness into the carbon handlebar like where the rise is it has like a unique look and shape to it uh we did a YouTube
video about these how long ago was that three years ago two years ago three years ago at least it was a while ago
yeah and uh it was actually really fun I I rode the bars back to back same Trail
same bike uh rode four or five different handlebars and it was way more
surprising than I thought doing that test which is we did it in a very scientific way which is hard to do with
any bike part but handlebars is one of the more plausible ones to do it with and I I was way impressed at how
different ever every bar felt there is obviously definitely absolutely had the most vertical compliance but it was uh
yeah it was just really surprising to be like wow these rental bars feel like a pipe of Steel
um I didn't think so did The Race Face bars the true beta Bars were like a pretty good hybrid that I actually really liked and kind of took a lot of
thought when we went to go design the trail One bars but the one-up bars had the most compliance which if you have a
rigid Fork like my Gravelly mountain bike weird thing that I'd ride a lot makes a ton of sense or if you had a
bike park makes a lot of sense yeah um yeah anyways they're good bars yeah no surprise number one spot but not as
good as our number two bar wow well that's like opinion yeah situation what is that objective
uh ended up in the number two spot and the Crockett alloy bars ended up in the number three spot
um by the way Crockett is Crockett Hills in in Northern California all the trail one products every product sold a dollar
goes back to the trail network uh that they're named after so those those handlebars
um yeah donations get made to Crockett which is pretty cool and like I just mentioned we kind of designed the
Crockett card bars around not being really flexy but also not being rigid
pipe the Goldilocks oh You Took the Words Can Say
and then the NV composite M6 bars premium premium creme de la Creations
on it and it makes you look high class yeah people are envious of you it's a
status symbol it is it's like a yeti on the back of your Tesla the one up USA rack and your Envy bars Gucci bag oh
that's gone too far a stone mountain biker oh come on and you definitely don't have the number five bars which were race-based Chester handlebars yeah
four and five are like opposites of this yeah yeah very space station handlebar
is you know a bit of a dirt bag don't want to waste your money on handlebars so you get just like a reliable Workhorse that's not very expensive and
works good and has good Geo and Bam There You Go Race Face chest perfect Race Face Chester boom but if you want more style you get a crocodile and then
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and you know um I'm a pretty big fan of the uh this brand the dominated of nakawa Industry nine yeah industry nine
the one slash one Enduro S wheel set was the top seller which yeah makes sense
it's it is kind of that perfect uh certainly not a cheap wheel set but certainly not a super high priced wheel
set it's kind of that perfect Middle Ground still an alloy Rim really good hubs
um that's the one does that have straight pull steel spokes or does that have j bends that's Enduros Hydra
yeah Hydra does okay so the one to one has just the regular yeah yeah which the
number two spot was the S Hydra Hydra but same same with Hydro Hub and
straight pull spokes and in third spot the Enduro 305s from industry 9 which is just a slightly
different Rim also has Hydra hubs oh that's this those were the system Wheels yeah it was the system with industry
nines sort of proprietary aluminum straight pull spoke um yeah those are nice yeah those are
fancy those are nice and the Workhorse DT Swiss e 1900s uh which came in here
uh that price was wrong no just deleted that cool yeah
I was gonna say that's not cheap yeah it wasn't affordable I think that was the rear wheel prices yeah they're like a
couple hundred bucks each each though yeah well the rear is more expensive than the front yeah they're like somewhere maybe 650 ish or so I'm not
even gonna say a price to get the price back wheels are so hard to tell someone the price of Wheels because it's like well depending on what free hit body
depending on 26 27 529 uh did you want this spoke configuration or that one so
it's like yeah it's just it's kind of confusing but PG Swiss e1900s a great mounted bike wheel set DD Swiss I mean
they're going to be in here for sure yeah number five spot bird hawk 27s
yeah yeah let's go
uh bird we made a YouTube video about their noodle Spooks yeah I don't think they like us call them noodle spokes oh
they're spaghetti spaghetti spokes more to be scientific well we also gave away a couple sets of we did yeah we did some
Birdwell giveaways which is pretty rad so they collaborated with we are one to make that North American-made carbon Rim
which is their Hawk 27 Rim yep correct and then industry nine hubs on that wheel set also made in America and then
the bird spokes which are Made In America which are ultra high molecular weight polyethylene polyethylene we
almost said that at the same time it's pretty good beautiful it is a really interesting I mean that is one of those
things you got to watch the video but uh for a more in-depth review on it but that's totally one of those things that I can't even remember you came across
that on Instagram or something you're like oh look at this brand and I was like yeah I don't know man looks kind of like spinergy I'm not gonna bother and
then well I grew up in the world I know Synergy was popular and they had those
noodly Kevlar Spokes and then like the company went out of business and then there was a carcass and it came back and
then I don't know I don't know everything about spinergy but they're just they're not really relevant anymore
um maybe they're still making good Wheels I don't know maybe I should look into that before I say that but there's certainly not like popping up in
Instagram feeds like a mavic situation it kind of sounds like a mavic situation but I put them down the same road yeah
yeah um but we got the birds to test and all three of us were
we're all wow these are actually you could say we were jazzed we were Jazz like these are light yeah these are not
flexi like you would initially think at all they have a really unique feel the way that they sort of dampen the stuff
you run over with the bike the dirt um they're durable yeah it was we were all just impressed and I think literally all
three of us ride them now yeah yeah and we have yet to break one we have yet to break a Spoke
um I'm just gonna lead that right into that is my favorite product of 2022.
that's why you wanted to wait that's like I mean it's kind of the middle yeah there's no agenda yeah he had his agenda
he didn't want to tell us though so that's fine all right what was yours secret is the Secret's out yeah mine too
I mean at least the spokes it's off the table like another one but
fine that's my runner-up I like the spokes I mean I had him lace up one of my wheels and
um yeah loved it so boom um I'll come up with another one oh I know one yeah
you're not even remembering the five Dev cranks that's gonna be one of you guys oh I love those yeah those are cool was
that gonna be yours did I guess yours I actually didn't have it on here but I didn't even think of it not really no
um I didn't uh but considering I have them on all of my bikes yeah that's why I guess that was
yours because you put them on all your bikes I would like every new bike you build you saved them and put the old ones back on that bike and then yeah I
uh yeah yeah they're red my first favorite product of this year is my
Forest Hall Siri on oh yeah that would have been my second guess yeah I've been
you haven't been e-biking more I've been e-biking a lot you still ride your other bike oh yeah of course but yeah you have
to set a rule right yeah he's not jaded man you have to set a rule of like okay I'm gonna go out and do four hours on my
normal pedal bike and then next day or the day before one of them ride the e-bike so you stack up two days and I'm
not being completely lazy although I'm pretty sure last week and a half it's been raining a lot so I think I
pedaled one time today and like one time 10 days ago and everything in between and it's been
e-bike or shuttling hmm slippery slope there Liam it is
[Laughter] well my number two product would be five Dev cranks and specifically going with
shorter length five Dev cranks I'm not really liking that 160 165s on the pedal
bike 160s on the e-bike and the shuttle bike nice yeah interesting all right
cool well speaking of the Four Stall Sirion which is your pick we just came out with a video All About That bike and
that brand on YouTube so if you're interested in a lightweight e-bike check that out yeah on the YouTubes I'm about
to put out a bike check blog super in depth of my four Soul should be live in
like two days probably when this podcast comes out it'll be live what dropper post do you have on it because that's the next category uh it's not one that
made the list but it is maybe my one of my top five products of this year the wolf tooth resolve dropper post oh yeah
that's that should be an honorable mention because it didn't come out until September so that doesn't count yeah
in the drop post category yeah my post on my bike right now uh I've got that KS
carbon Lev thing yeah I just really wouldn't recommend to be honest yeah I'd rather like if you want the lightest
dropper post because you're a total weight weenie that's the one that's why I have it um if you want the best most reliable
dropper post uh get something else uh carbon it is the lightest straight up
reimates it because he has to work on it so he's always like just get another one I'm like no dude has anyone made a
lighter one yet no no okay then gosh I did have the Crank Brothers High Line on
my Rascal before that well and I'm gonna get that Crank Brothers Highline 11 with
the carbon shaft yeah you should use that because even if it's but that's still not lighter even if it's 10 or 15
grams heavier I'll accept if it's gonna be more than reliable I'm gonna find like a super obscure European company
that makes a lighter drop of posts enough from a reputable boom well it's
okay there is definitely a lot of weird obscure European mountain bike parts of
all kinds that are obscenely light and amazing but they're also five thousand dollars no problem for Jeff Kaley yeah I
think you need to get one of those I'm not going that far are those fancy intent upside down forks that are like
no way I'm not going carbon steer and everything are those actually lighter though are they just cool for the sake
of this podcast they are lighter and then he's gonna have to research it whichever place you got on your bike right now Fox transfer uh on my sb140
and then I also have a Crank Brothers Highline because it is a great price and I paid for that one true well the number
one dropper post Fox transfer Factory number two was the one up components V2 the number three was the pnw low lomer
I'll come all different price points Fox fan transfer Factory is kind of that bougie match your kishima fork and shock
new high-end post right up there um the one up is and the pnw are more on
the less expensive side but still bulletproof reliable yeah one up has extremely low stack height they're both
more user serviceable I guess you could say certainly um yeah all right dropper seatpost
remotes or levers or levers or levers relievers how do you want to call it I like lever I like lever because you
sound fancy yeah the number one was almost the one I have on my bike I have
the wolf tooth remote uh on my bike it's my favorite one that I always use I like that one too I
just love that one uh but the number one was the wolf tooth remote light action so it's essentially the exact same lever
but it has uh our exact same remote with a longer lever blade correct increasing
leverage increase the leverage so you have a more of a light action you have to push nearly as hard with your thumbs up a lever is because it offers Leverage
yeah you might be on some chair you're onto something you should we should spend an hour and a half Googling that
after the podcast I'm down uh number two p w loam lever that's a nice one a
little nice pad rubber pad on there you can change the colors is that what you have on your bike yeah um no I have the actually I have the
wolf tooth remote on my El Jefe yeah and then I have a fox transfer one on the other one which happens to be our number
three it is they should call it the fox transfer V2 but I think they kind of took the V1 and just tried to shove it
on the rug like it never happened it has erased it from history I just erased it from history so we'll forget about that one too yeah
and got in trouble a forgettable yeah I I said that it wasn't that good on a
YouTube video and fox was like me me why'd you do that but you know guess what I was like guess what it's not that
good I'm not just gonna lie to people but guess what and then they revive him out the better one made it way better and now it's all it's awesome lever and
it's in the number three spot yeah if you said this is great they probably would have kept it the same which would have been horrible for the bike industry
and Humanity as a whole it's like if something actually genuinely like you
know it warrants criticism then yeah you should give it because otherwise it'll be the same and it'll say I agree man
yeah that's why I do it yep um breaks breaks break this up and talk
about brakes [Music]
number one magura mt7s uh they spot again yeah that's the second year in a
row which is amazing that megura has really just taken some market share in
the North American Market slid in under the radar he really did out the top like yeah number of people are still fighting
for the win but they don't even know that someone's beating them yeah yeah you're right it's like Ceramics mono or hyper Focus looking at each other and
here's my gear just like selling a lot more brakes and all of them yeah that's a really good way of putting it land yeah you know it's like let everybody
else all the peasants deal with their stuff and the girls on their high horse at the top I don't know if they look at it quite
like that but they're making good breaks I thought you're gonna say something about them being peasants but yeah I actually swapped
well you've been bridemakers yeah Forestville came with mt7s to start and I was like well I'll just run them and
see how they are a lot of people like them and if not I'll throw the code RC's on them because that's what I've been liking and uh I dug them so much that
I swap frames uh e-bike frames and those had mt5s on them which is pretty much my
understanding the same exact break with a little bit different lever so I left the empty fives on like those a lot so
and then fives are in the number four spot by the way mt5 is our number four spot and then I built up my sp-120 and I
like having the same break and same brake pad so I just put mt5s on that too yeah a logical guy
the number two spot SRAM code Ric's which Jared I know you love I do love those I have those on both my bikes Liam
is a former lover of this ramco RCS I still like him he's a current Informer lover but you swapped it all out I don't
have any on my bikes but I'm not a hater yeah yeah he's like the the swinger of the break world
[Music] I ran the code rfcs on my Rascal all year and I love those things yeah it's a
super powerful good strand break number three spot the Workhorse Shimano SLX
slicks those are I mean the price of Shimano SLX I'll give it to them there is absolutely no better break at that
price for sure yeah yeah well actually McGrew does offer a break that's pretty close in price but we haven't tried it
yeah SLX design has been extensively tested
and you I mean it's just if that was my price point there's no way I'd pick a different break to be honest I like SLX
or xt's but better than the xtrs I still said that varying bite plan they just
kind of yeah nobody likes that yeah yeah interesting so number four who already mentioned my gear mt5 and then in the
fifth spot the trp DHR Evo which is that sort of uh big dog four piston downhill
break that people love to put on their Enduro bikes yeah I have it on I have a
set on my shuttle bike and I like them but yeah they're a little heavy to go on like my other bike so I didn't do that
yeah all right they're good though Saddles Shadows also known as seats uh
by the way on this Saddles topic we made a YouTube video about Saddles and we put in a lot of research into that video and
kind of really spent a lot of time breaking out the way we were going to explain what matters when you're
considering buying a saddle how who you are what bike you ride how often you ride it how long you ride it all these other things then we even had a phone in
a friend we got Jonathan Lee who's like a big time Roadie and cross-country Rider to who's super knowledgeable about
the stuff who's works over at trainer road we got him in the video to talk a lot about it more extensively so if
you're really on the saddle train you can't figure out which one you like or you're going to buy a new one and you want to like really dig into the topic
check out that video uh number one spot WTB volt classic classic classic classic
design available in a whole bunch of different rail materials and price points looks good I mean can't go wrong
ergon SM Pro and number two so when you like Jerry I'm a fan of that one yeah you like that one chair's a fan I'm a
fan sure it's a fan uh then the number three how about this Willie title MTB
js1 saddle I wouldn't have believed it unless I saw right here I know I of course I didn't believe it either I was
like I gotta see the data and I like dug around I was like no yeah okay Jared literally didn't believe me I had to say
wow it's like a dirt jump sound I'm just really curious why I mean title so tidal is a is a dirt jump free ride
brand um owned and operated by I think predominantly Brett reader yeah the
famed absolutely astonishingly good um Free Rider and uh yeah I mean that
that saddle fits their brand it's very they're jump-esque looking I don't really know putting it on their
Enduro bikes because I mean it's definitely gotten more padding and more cushion than every other saddle that we sell basically so I think that's kind of
like a trend people put in just kind of whatever saddle I mean yeah maybe yeah
you're right there like a Ranger with a chromag saddle on there isn't it yeah yeah true
yeah some Saddles WTV Silverado in the number four spot
that's my preferred saddle I really like that it's yeah another classic design I have the one with carbon rails it is
stealth bomber looking it's low profile lightweight low padding uh I mean say
it's legit it's legit I really like it it's not a cushy saddle by any means but it's an awesome saddle that I really
enjoy slim oh actually I have the volt on my uh gravel bike thing yeah so I
have both of those incredible bike thing well yeah supposed to be a gravel bike it has like flat bars and a dropper post
uh number five sdg Bell layer 3.0 real classic right there yeah well 3.0
version of the classic so yeah it's modern take on a classic modern take on the classic uh pedals one up
composite pop it up again yeah actually the number one spot was one up composite and the number two spot was one up
aluminum which is killer they do make a really nice pedal clears mud well grips well looks awesome a bunch of different
colors yeah what more to say yeah what more to say durable service old uh then
in number three spot the pnw range composite pedal that's cool to see that didn't that come out in 22. I think the
camera wasn't that long ago or like last year maybe end of 21 but it's not too old yeah it's nice to see that in there
uh number four spot deity death trap composite pedal then the Race Face Chester composite pedal composite pedals
dominated the list and also so did flat pedals and this made me realize we probably should have done a clipless pedals and a flat pedals like separately
yeah why didn't you do that Jared well yeah um noted for next year I mean I guess in
the scheme of things clipless pedals just don't sell nearly as much as flat pedals and it would be there's that
Shimano Crank Brothers and maybe a trickle in from another dimensions
yeah yeah so yeah well anyway they're your top pedals no surprise no surprise
forks forks is the next category number one the big super Enduro 38 38 Fox 38
that is a good Fork fantastic I mean that is just it looks amazing it works amazing exceptional exceptionable oh I
was gonna say you can't really bad about that thing and exceptional I said exception exceptionable
yes foreign so as we mentioned earlier these
products were picked from revenue generated and or volume and the forks and the forks category well a lot of
these categories they're all over the place right because you can imagine not as many people buy a fox 38 as do a rock
shock Recon which is a completely different price point that is probably the best uh Fork
under 250 whereas the fox 38's best Fork over a thousand dollars
those are your one in two spots right there uh number three 34 Step cast you
got a 34 Step cast on something don't you or you just have a 34. I just have a third step cast one and a step cast I'm
a big boy you had that on your SB 100 yeah which DJ Green Goblin over here now
has DJ Green Goblin Goblin as a fox 34 Step cast yeah he does number four spot
Fox 36 which I do have yeah yeah I got the new one yeah because
they what what are the fox is so confusing every April they come out with next year's Forks well I think they
changed the uh the chassis with different material and showed off a little bit of weight but that was their 2 000 23 Forks that came out in April of
2022. right yeah so that's the version you want to buy yeah right the giveaway is that really rounded Arch right well
that's been there for two years now yeah but the newest one just like they shaved off I don't know like 25 grams or something maybe a little more than that
but prior to that rounded Arch was very different right correct and it kind of got overshadowed by the 38 because it
came out with a 38 yeah which took all the all the Press yeah
36 and the pistachio 38 that's when those all came out yep
um yeah great for work not 36. it is good yeah but you know what is shocking
is our next category rear shocks float X
yeah the all-round amazing Enduro shock trail bike shock yeah float X2 just a
bigger beefier version of that for longer travel bikes and downhill bikes yeah the Big Daddy Big Daddy RockShox
Monarch RL yeah less expensive yeah my volume fits on a lot of bikes absolutely
the new rock shock Super Deluxe ultimate oof yep nice Reservoir I really like the
new Super Deluxe ultimate yeah that's the one yeah the new new that's the one yeah is that what you have right now
super Lux ultimate coil on my uh forestall
and then I have a float X2 on my Crestline downhill bike nice yep
very good I have the rockstruck Sid setup sit ultimate Deluxe on my Revel
Ranger Light trail bike and then the Rascal had a pike on it and a Super Deluxe yep ultimate
was it ultimate yeah it was Ultimate Super Deluxe ultimate 9000.
um that name Super Deluxe ultimate those are like three synonyms yeah that's that's unbelievable
um what do you have on your bikes uh yeah I have a float X on my SB 140 and then I have well there is no rear shock
on my other bike because it's a hardtail it's your legs oh it's my legs man I suck it
before we get into maintenance and miscellaneous and the top products of the entire year and the least popular
product of the entire year a quick break so you can hear this uh nice sound
effects
maintenance maintenance maintenance maintenance maintenance
uh the reigning King of the maintenance category SRAM butter grease works works
for a lot of stuff yeah muck off bio dry bike chain lube great Lube top selling
chain lube really important actually works really good good stuff number three spot Buzzy's slick honey that's my
favorite mmm me too you like silicone what do you use it for everything everything well not everything chain
lube really shared I'm not gonna spread it Hub internals in
suspension mostly yeah drop a post dropper post yeah no it's good this do you use it for the exact same things
you'd use butter grease for I do and do you think that there is any a chemical
difference between slick honey and butter grease I haven't dove in dived into the grease uh but I bet you they're
like 98 the same yeah yeah I think Jared said that while you're filming the video so they're probably making the same Factory uh the
number three spot was the park tool sac-2 what is what is s again something
the uh that's the uh something assembly compound that's the yeah super grip assembly compound yeah yeah it's
assembly compound for like if you have yeah uh yeah carbon paste yeah yeah I wasn't sure
what sac-2 is super grip assembly compound so handled carbon handlebars on
your stem controls grips seat post into your carbon frame yeah it makes sense that's a really good product and I think
Park Tool didn't have it for a long time so makes sense that they came out with it came out a really good one and it
sold black hot cakes boom speaking of cakes any well miscellaneous where we
talk about the rest I get that oh yeah what got a cake or any uh any other honorable mentions in the the
maintenance category um what's that chain lube that you liked
well all right squirt the squirt squirt and when we
travel I put squirt on your bike yeah I know it I do think it lasts the longest although it's probably a little gunkier
than the muck off it seems thicker yeah it's more sure thicker you have to put it on Let it
fully dry fully dry yeah so that's it that's kind of annoying because you gotta let it sit overnight usually yeah
it's like not the chain leave you just like throw on your bike before yeah yeah well sometimes last night Jared
isn't the same as how many people are gonna do that how many people are gonna do that I do am I driving yeah they're
spotless that is one thing I have like told myself I'm gonna do more is like go out to my bike the night before a ride and just make sure it's dialed instead
of like waking up you know I gotta go to other surfaces you know it's even easier Jared having it dialed already get back
from your ride and just wipe off the chain and throw chain lube on and now you're asking a lot 60 seconds yeah 60
Seconds this is turned into a psychiatric counseling session let's go into the
miscellaneous category number one spot yeah Race Face T2 Half
Stack tailgate pad that's basically a really nice Race Face tailgate pad for the bed of your truck but it's the half
version of it for two bikes for two bikes it's a Half Stack offensive in any way shape or form yeah I don't
think so yeah they're half stock oh no that's like short that's short stack short stack and that's pancakes pancakes
I guess not that's like half pint like hey they're half pint yeah yeah so yeah
this is a great it's a great tailgate pad that's just not as big as a normal one yeah it doesn't block a backup camera yeah
it's convenient nope doesn't cover up your logo or the other side your uh release oh yeah the handle tailgate
handle yeah that's nice there's no no wonder it's sold like hot cakes yeah uh easier to take on number two spot lasign
flow bottle cage side loader side loader I like that's my personal favorite one that's the cage it comes in a right and
the left but the also the wolf tooth cage is great too yeah titanium Like the Wolf tooth that's your honorable mention
that's all right uh number three Pedro's Tire levers no
wonder those things are amazing the best no one has designed a better tire lever in 19 years
I will say that the Kush core tire lever bead
popper whatever they call it that thing is sick for like super super hard and tough tires
and working with Coach other than that though pages is used all the time yeah yes
makes sense number four Fox high pressure shock pump 350 PSI
uh yeah I mean yeah that one's digital right well uh digital one didn't sell as good as the analog oh really yeah oh
it's like it's like half four times the price and it's more than that isn't that one 30 bucks versus like 120 oh no I
think it's like 60 bucks for the yeah I should probably look that up before I say it yeah
type that into the computer there Jared no clue what I got all right well I say number five which is the lasign grip
Drive HV frame pump um that thing's actually really cool a lot of people are using carrying frame
pumps with them now either on the frame or in their hydration pack or in their bib pocket as opposed to co2s because
the frame pumps are more environmentally friendly you don't have to replace them so like a CO2 you get a flat you use it
you forget and then you forget to replace your cartridges and then you get another flat and you go oh these are used CO2 cartridges so that never
happens again and they've also made these things so much lighter yeah this this design HV frame pump it almost
feels weightless in your hand it's super easy to use got a hose inside it's got the hose tucked inside cool and I think
everyone at one point has messed up putting their CO2 on on there yeah for
sure so back to what we were just talking about the analog version it's 33 digital version eighty dollars yeah it's
a big price difference so a little more uh honorable mention crank boots
uh SRAM crank boots in particular a lot of people bought those because they have SRAM cranks and got to get crank boots I
don't run them on my five deaths yeah well you can't really don't want to I have a tough guys tough guy best
selling products of the entire year uh this is just by volume that was I
understand from number four to number one oh okay yeah okay okay we have number four which has
been in this for three years running or maybe more years is the uh at least in
the top five is the DT Swiss 54 tooth ratchet kit oh yeah man we have a really
old YouTube video on that thing where I basically explained what that does because a lot of bikes come with the
stock 18 tooth ratchet which has 18 tooth 18 teeth of Engagement which is
crazy it's a huge amount of lag and drag of nothingness engagement or something it's crazy yeah
so I shouldn't say lag or drag I said wrong words huge amount of dead zone where you're unengaged and when you
start pedaling before it engages because you have less engagement and then you can upgrade for it's like 115 bucks or
something to the 54 tooth slide that in there bam hours three times yeah it makes a major
difference yeah that's like one of those things like if you have an 18 to DT Swiss Hub right now for 115 dollars you
can dramatically change the way your bike feels and rides yeah which is pretty cool and why that thing has been attacked three years easy to install
yourself yep as long as you don't put the Springs backwards don't put the Springs backwards
um yeah yeah and it's such a hot shower too I know the skew off the top of my head oh yeah yeah hu-1344 yep yeah yeah
yeah I'm testing you number three spot Fox Factory rebuild kit for float rear
shocks fits almost every Fox rear shock yeah not all of them but pretty much
besides the float X2 yeah or a coil shock yeah float rear shocks from like 2000 the year 2000 yep up it's
incredible and good on them for honestly making them all compatible like I could yeah that was super smart to do that
instead of just making every shock different like Oh They'll have a new steel kit for every single shark yeah yeah that was a good idea you guys are
cool it's actually a nice one that's a winning move Fox yeah winning move yeah number two SRAM disc brake pads the
sintered compound with the steel backed oh but what shape is this for do you know uh I think this is the code one
code and then G2 is actually the next one because people are obviously going for
centered pads yep um yeah and I think they typically well codes always come with the centered but
the g2s come with the organic the g2s come with a powerful powerful organic organic right right
brake pads there you go brake pads surprise some people wear brake pads number one the number the number one
spot number one product GX Eagle chain oh
[Laughter] yeah I mean it's it's a really good
chain it's at an affordable price point it fits on any Eagle Drive train doesn't
matter what it is any SX nxgx x01 x01 any of the access variance fits on all
of those all of them uh so yeah it makes sense why that would sell yeah and
probably because there was you know 900 people that couldn't get one all of 2020
and 2021 that were like yes I can buy one now
the SRAM GX Eagle chain was essentially the toilet paper of 2022. oh it's a good
paper in 2020. it was a geographical change all chains I should say yeah yeah buy out uh the whole stock at your local
shop and then sell them to your buddies for a 200 markup yeah for trash yeah you might not have any
buddies after that yeah all right Jared yeah uh hit that up oh
yeah the one least sold product the number one least sold product is
William do you well I was gonna ask you if you want to guess it but you're looking at it right now yeah the Avid bleed block for juicy
2005-2007 and juicy three brakes and impressive this is the least sold
product yeah which which so obviously there could have been some products that didn't sell at all right those were not
included it doesn't count we want the least sold product and this we sold one of for the entire year one it's a bleed
block for Avid juicy juicy threes yeah 2005 to 2007 versions you know man if
you're listening and you're bleeding your brakes that block just good for you that's all I got to say it's just amazing somebody bought that what were
you doing in 2005 to 2007 Jared um I was high school a yeah I think 05 I
was probably a freshman in high school and I may it probably didn't have juicies I wish I did back then yeah yeah
I had think I had juices just getting into middle school and
skating and biking a lot and not riding mountain bikes
actually and I just started surfing too punk
jeez that was mean what's mean I'm gonna make him cry didn't mean it punks don't
cry all right well this was a bit of an
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no one one time I uh this was a few years ago I don't know why I thought
this would be funny I went on the Instagram stories and I think I had a rock shock Fender and and I said first
person to show me their their feet next to their uh RockShox Fork that wants this Fender horrible and it was like
three days hundreds of just gross feet picks on people's Rock shock forks
[Music] I was like that was I thought it was funny Raymond got so upset that he said
Jeff you answer all these DMS yeah I do not like he was grossed out by how many
feet pictures I also hate feet so I would be like quitting yeah when he told
me I was like who cares just open it and say thanks and close it and then I once I started I was like oh this is kind of gross
it's like one after the next like bare feet dirty next to Forks like this all
of the things last thing anyone wants to see is mountain bikers feet yeah that's what you asked for I want to see
pictures of your feet I thought it was funny and it ended up not being funny because like oh you know
15 000 people saw it and 300 of them did it so gross you gotta watch yourself on
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