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Jeff Crashed Into Jared, Amish MTBers, Is A Torque Wrench Necessary? Ep. 106 [Podcast]

MTBpodcast · Jeff Crashed Into Jared, Amish MTBRs, Is A Torque Wrench Necessary? Ep. 106

On today's episode, the guys begin by discussing how Jeff crashed into Jared while filming a video, some exotic suspension that we received for Jeff's new bike, and the ever rising cost of bike pumps among other things. This is followed by a fantastic array of listener questions ranging from choosing between a Fox 36 or 38, riding a wooden DH bike at Whistler and everything in between. Tune in!

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welcome to episode 106 of the mtb podcast presented and hosted by worldwide

Cyclery I'm Jared I'm Liam and I am Jeff and in this episode we are going to

discuss riding hardtails, what to do when your bike has to sit idle, Garmin watches

for mountain biking, experimenting with different Fork travel, and how much weight you should put into the comments

sections about mountain bike parts, and of course plenty of other listener questions that we assure you are

mountain bikers you are mounted Weir mountain bikers we're sure you mouth we're sure you mountain bikers are going

to love and get something from because that's kind of our goal yeah on this podcast yeah you mountain bikers yeah

better listen good how about your breaking news comments oh that's right we actually have just discovered this

breaking piece of News why bike pump prices to go up every year did you know this you hear about this no because of

inflation I thought you're breaking news you must be about some SRAM you know breaks or

something the most dad jokes for any guy who doesn't have a kid all right Lou dog play sound effects

[Laughter] quick notes I put quick notes on uh

things we're excited about um yeah well but but I think we should comment on how we ended up here right

now so it's a comedy of heirs uh we attempted to record this episode 106

last Wednesday uh it didn't go so well we had some microphone issues waste a lot of time

it's frustrating and then we're like you know what tough day it's called it's called quits boys go home next day we go

out Jared and I and Lou dog to film some mountain bikes on this Trail called suicide super Rocky gnarly downhill

Trail uh we'll do some filming um we it's I don't know it's kind of

it's hard there's a big jump probably 25 miles an hour really high speed section of the trail I'm following behind Jared

Jared wads himself right in front of me and then I crash right into Jared uh and go cartwheeling down a hill on Liam's

bike broke a bunch of stuff on Liam's bike uh for sure got whiplash uh gosh if

you're one of the people who are watching this on YouTube uh we'll run the clip for you right now otherwise the

rest of you will probably see it on our social media at some point

you all right yeah are you okay mediocre

what happened it was a pretty good crash we both got

pretty banged up yeah that was that was a good that was a good reminder when you crash going that fast that mountain biking is a pretty dangerous sport for

sure especially on a jump that you've done 100 times yeah and would you also say it's the smoothest part of the whole

Trail oh yeah it's like the part of the trail you get to and you're like it's all downhill from here baby we're home free yeah

high speed stuff and I was like I'm going to Pedal harder than I've ever pedaled off this jump for some reason

um and yeah I mean I will say I hit that bike on the uh Crestline e-bike the other month yeah

and I jump on that press on your bike it was like turbo it was hero during

that day well you're going faster than the motor kicks in so yeah but it's full hero there so you hit that right hander and you're just like you know flying

yeah and I've yanked as hard as I could on it yeah um and I went way too far and like tires landed in the bushes like

yeah kind of where you were almost did what Jared did almost yeah like I'm turned and I made it but I like went

further than the actual hip was yeah um man but I wrote it out e-bikes are amazing at that they just spray and play

me praying spray baby some monster truck over here yeah yeah

we were not so lucky so then we didn't finish that we were trying to film this video All About Yeti's new mountain bike

lineup for 2023 we were gonna do all the commentary of the video after that but after that that was that was a pretty

big rocker so we just yeah we just threw in the towel on that day and you don't want to know it gets even better so then uh than Friday I'm here with Lou dog

trying to get a whole new podcast situation going set everything up Jared's like lovebird on his honeymoon

or something yeah doing you're on an anniversary it's a nice little vacation anniversary

so I'm working on setting up all this podcast stuff with Lou dog uh the

shelves behind us are are not stable and they're sitting on top of USPS boxes and

I bumped the Shelf while we were trying to run the USB cables in this Trail one Viking stem from the top shelf falls on

the back of my head yeah yeah just from the top of the shelf right literally still tender to the touch

four days later still have a bruise it's like significant bruise on the back of my head from that stem hitting me in the

back that was like man three days in a row we're just getting punched in the face by the universe don't they say it comes in threes you're good for a while

that's true I hope so God dude so yeah rough going these days but we're we're

back we're here talking about bike parts wow so speaking of Parts should we list off all the things I need to replace no

I'm just kidding I apologize for ruining Liam's bike I

don't know I like picked up your bike and I was like oh it's all good yeah and I was like oh wait no the lever is it's

broken sorry Jeff you gotta ride down the trail with only one break I don't care at all no I should apologize yeah

all right sorry for my dub line Choice

exuberant pedaling got other bikes yeah that's what he said he's like oh now Liam can't ride his bike this weekend I

was like yeah honestly like yeah that was that was one of those crashes where broken bikes were not

you're actually pretty grateful that like we're okay because you don't crash going that fast every day that's not that's not smart or safe at all it was

also one of those crashes we were like where is Liam's bike yeah literally it was like 40 feet down the trail we were

cartwheeling down the trail yeah yeah incredible I mean when you're going that fast and yeah detach from your bike the

thing just goes like exploded yeah yeah that was wild it was a heck of a crash heck of a crash

we're here my Whiplash is finally going away yeah slowly but surely my sore neck

is getting better I'm scabbing up nicely yeah we're both scabbing up nicely it's all great it's all great so so we're

here yeah uh you know what we should talk about real quick in 10 suspension the boutique suspension component

company from Germany uh that we were talking about in sort of I don't know it

was like a euphoric moment like these European expensive European Boutique bike brand they have so much cooler

stuff over there we love them but they're so crazy like detailed can't afford that yeah they reached out and

they're like hey you guys want to try some of this stuff and we're like oh yeah is this a scam

do I need to hit you on your telegram yeah right how much uh how much crypto

right yeah that was super cool they reached out and I can't wait that stuff looks unbelievable initiated a

conversation and now we have a what is it the hero fork or uh wait an edge

it's an inverted Enduro Fork I mean both of those that fork and shock

are totally abnormal in the sense that the forks inverted the shock looks like a coil shock but it's an air shock yeah

so yeah this this is some I don't know Aerospace grade Shenanigans I cannot

wait to try this stuff I know when you open that was so funny when you opened the box and you were looking at it you're just like it's giggling it's like

a little kid on Christmas you just couldn't stop laughing it's like it's kind of so happy right it's like the

kind of thing you like read about you see on on the internet like yeah that's true that stuff is so exotic like I'll

never get my hands on something like that and then it shows up and it's like yeah yeah I cannot wait to ride that

stuff danger home uses it yeah it's crazy far out builds yeah so that's like

pretty much where I saw them on his bikes and then I like holy crap because it's here in our under our roof might

even start tomorrow afternoon maybe nice or Wednesday awesome yes let's mentioned is going on that Banshee

which we're also bringing on again yeah I'm excited to kind of bring Banshee back into the fold we sold

banshees quite a bit in the early days of worldwide Cyclery and then um banshee's been I don't know here or

there with what bikes and designs and yeah now they're kind of making a comeback and making cool stuff and I was

like wow this is all actually looking really good so let's get this brand back in the fold because this looks sweet so

we're gonna build one up I'm gonna ride it in Sedona and ride it I don't know where else

yeah nice do they have a particular suspension design like that they they do

um yeah it is it's like ks2 yeah named after their founder I think that guy's name was Keith maybe yeah yeah

um it's cool it's a duel link design similar I'd say it's along the lines of like uh and like a pivot nice that's cool yeah

similar to that so should ride good huh it works good looks good yeah the Banshees I've had in the past are awesome so I'm excited to write another

one of those um yeah they just the way they do their raw frames too the way they take that what do you think they even take to that

in the factory it's like um [Music]

oh good yeah it looks really I've never seen raw frames that look that cool looks really good and uh the aluminum

on this new one is really good it's really cool so nice yeah it's gonna look really good with those parts on it yeah

it is can't wait man all that jewelry hanging off with it it's gonna be sweet can't wait so keep an eye out on the

Instagram and the YouTube for shorts and reels because we're gonna build this bad baby up

it's gonna look good yeah it's always fun to build super nice bikes that have a bunch of cool unique Parts on it but this will be a more exotic building I

think I've done in a while in terms of different parts and stuff I think I'm most excited for this bike more than a

lot of your other bikes yeah well it's pretty rare that you we build anything that doesn't have you

know fox or Rock shock on it so true adds a little bit of like whoa what's going on there yeah or more than 130 mL

of travel I haven't built up a long travel bike in a while yeah I don't know it's gonna be sweet what is it like 150 mil travel or 155 or

five rear and whatever you got the 4K 165 170. woof what a beast what a beast

very excited Jeff might not even know what to do with it hmm yes slap some

berms did I'll do my best slap you can slap in some berms of the

first did you did you intentionally lead into that I did not know what a great segue the first listener question is

when is it a good idea to put a foot down during a turn or is it not what was your foot out flat out baby

pull it out flat out Sam Hill when in doubt foot out that's another good one

too that is another good one that's original content that's actually probably not a good idea like oh I'm going to a super steep shoot I don't

know put my foot out no don't do that um yeah during a turn foot out flat out

flat turns I I think is a good idea yeah I mean it just depends on your riding

style so you know if you watch all the World Cup racers that race downhill in Enduro um some of them throw their foot

off way more than others just their riding style they ride a little bit more loose and they prefer to throw their foot off the bike

um you know I do it pretty often too even though I ride clipless a lot of people write clipless and still take their foot out because it's pretty easy

to click back in so yeah if you're if you're on edge and you feel like you're gonna drift and you feel more

comfortable with your foot out then heck yeah a lot of people who rode Motocross prior to mountain biking which was me too

um yeah you get kind of used to that so I don't know I throw feet off but some people ride a little bit more conservative and don't feel like they're

sliding in Corners then yeah you didn't no reason to put your foot out yeah so throw your feet off very often Liam I

agree um it depends where and what I'm riding um lately I have been because the dirt's

so hard packed and it's kind of got that real fine layer dust on top that I just feel like I'm sliding on every corner

and we don't have a lot of berms locally around us so um I do but there's also other times

where like maybe I'm trying to ride obsessions switchbacks and I'm like oh I'm not going to unclip and just try to like do

technique around them so I guess it just depends what I'm doing but if I'm going fast and just like trying to keep up or you know just go fast I probably will

take the foot off a bit more I would say definitely don't be afraid to do it makes you feel comfortable yeah go for

it now balance your weight a little bit the best riders in the world do it all the time yes it's not like live

television that's what you'd call live stream World

Cup races they're doing it on that so that's right so don't be afraid Don't Be Afraid all right how about this next

question how long is too long to wear knee pads down at the ankles when off

the bike post ride post ride yeah I would say just general uh

Aesthetics maybe just take the knee pads all the way off yeah yeah unless you really I don't know

if you're like going right back out for another ride or yeah I don't know yeah if you're in the midnight it's not the

best style or you're you know it's a little bit of a style that you're probably gonna get made fun of we're doing some concrete work like briefly

after yeah I need to lay this driveway I just finished my ride and we'll pull my knee

pads off for 10 minutes before I get get back home and start doing some tile work I guess I'd have to wear knee pads

that's true supposed to be yeah an issue for me for sure speaking of that are you gonna start wearing knee pads after you

just blew up your knee on that crash no no I mean I went for a ride the next day do you think a knee pad would have saved

your knee that's what I was wondering and I think maybe yeah for his because it's just a scrape like you guys prevent

scrapes yeah but it's like first hit on the ground they work and then a lot of

the time though you're doing 24 seconds an hour like you'd call it a minor crash a knee pad will prevent scrape and or

bruise yeah in a major crash not just like slides slides off yeah but most people have minor crashes true and you

know so that will prevent a scraper or bruise and if that's what you're trying to prevent the yeti pads were good yeah I think a properly placed knee pad

probably would have minimized the damage not around the ankles

so properly placed yeah properly placed not around the ankles yeah it would have it would have helped probably but gosh I

would not have been as comfortable how about the next one read it off Jared how to raise a downhill mountain biker

my son is nine and loves it and I really don't want to screw it up

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there is something there that is true some of us more recent than others and you were raised down a mountain biker

yeah which raced who raced yep I I mean I would say you know this I think it's

awesome that you're getting your kid into a good healthy fun sport because that's what I think that's an important thing to do and I was very fortunate

that my parents were really supportive of kind of any sport that I got into whether it was surfing or skating or BMX

or Motocross or then mountain biking and that's why I think all you can really do like my parents were just happy to

support and you know help me get into a sport and enjoy a sport no matter what it was that I liked

um I don't think it's a wise idea to kind of like force a sport on your kid if they don't like it but it's just like

my opinion man yeah I appearance never Force anything on me they just like supported whatever

I wanted to to do so yeah I think all of our parents are kind of like that a little for sure I'd say Don't force it

and also keep it fun like if he is racing like who cares if he gets lost or first like he's nine years old and it

probably should stay that way until he's like actually like 16 seconds he self-cares about it yeah totally because

I I did see a lot of I mean we probably all have had friends that their their parents were way too serious and putting

pressure on them to get results in some Sport and it's just like totally that's a good Surefire way to make that kid not

really want to do that I mean Moto dad or the literally Dad yeah mentality yeah notorious for screaming at their kids

for yeah underperforming on the trail like totally that's probably not the best way to treat this situation but

yeah yeah keep it fun vivid memory uh I did like one year of football when I was

in like fourth grade and the quarterbacks uh dad was the coach and I

just have this vivid memory of him just like bawling on the sideline his dad just like yelling at him and pointing his finger at him and just like God

that's that's brutal yeah like yeah that's but hey he went on to be uh in

the NFL I guess so there you go actually in the NFL for like a game oh yeah he

was like a practice QB or something but he made it got pretty far he got pretty far yeah so yeah those parents wild

abusive and yes it's scary maybe they did you know maybe or something I don't know so maybe he only played a game and

realized this is not for me the definition of success there is a little bit vague yeah he's like well success getting your kid in the NFL or them like

in kind of enjoying their life and the time they spent yeah playing sports I think the latter yeah I think so so get

your kids into mountain biking it's such a good sport I mean it completely riding bikes in general uh totally transformed

My Life as a kid and kept me outside doing fun healthy things and not staring at screens and getting into

paraphernalia so yeah yeah whoever asked that question just keep having fun yeah

absolutely good stuff it's a good question for you Liam read it I do not have a torque wrench I am

hurting am I hurting the hardware on my bike by tightening bolts to what feels good

um hurting the bolts or hurting the bike not really but if you're snapping

anything then yeah um maybe maybe he is hurting the bolts yeah maybe he is he didn't follow up

with that like am I hurting the bolts talking into what feels good all of my bolts are stripped yeah

um I mean I would say even myself who's in you know all of us who use torque

wrenches often and when I don't use one I'm like oh that was about five newton meters and then I go to put a real torque wrench on it and it's already

like topped out and like oh shoot I over tightened that already yeah human torque wrenches and like no one's good at that

um and I'd say for stuff like carbon parts and hardware and pivots on your

bike they're all pretty torch sensitive like usually 10 Newtons are under for pivot

hardware and then carbon's like five to six so that's not a high torque like yeah you don't want to clamp too hard on

carbon because you could break it yeah um and then a lot of pivot bolts are aluminum and you're using a steel bit

which means if you over torque it you can totally botch that bolt head so let me of course the bearings yeah that yeah

that's what I was going to say if you over torque that you could damage your bearings huh yep I think the the thing is is uh torque wrenches nowadays are so

much more affordable than they used to be yeah so it's just a it's a worthy thing to if you have a nice mountain

bike and you're going to be messing around with it with tools yourself just buy a torque wrench like it's really not that expensive treat yourself Park tool

sets like maybe 100 bucks and you've got a you know four five six eight ten thousand dollar bike yeah it's probably

a worthy investment yeah that that one park t-handle one just comes with like a T25 uh four five and six right something

how much do you have to spend to get a torque wrench that has an eight mil Allen that's like the more the full size

to buy the full-size one yeah there's really only a couple of ones not that many like the crank bolt maybe and like

maybe the derailleur hanger that would use an eight mil right yeah the other thing too is like if it's an eight mil bolt it's like you can you can the

bigger the bolt the bigger your over torque can be um usually yeah that's true and nine

times out of tens also with the bigger bolt you're also gonna have a bigger like allen wrench handle so you can have

more leverage right so it's also gonna like an eight mil and you know if it only calls for a little bit of torque like on suspension Hardware you'll just

over torque that yeah a lot I mean right here one of the Park tour wrench is 113 that's just the wrench but you can buy

any bit set and that's the nice one that's like the big dog yeah that's the big dog the little t-handle guy is way

less than that yeah way less yeah it just only has but yeah it just doesn't have an eight Milton yeah and it won't really do too much suspension Hardware

because it's like six Newton and under yeah so it's just a limited amount of news yeah 150 bucks you can get in get a

good set with a good torque wrench that's reliable for the investment if you're going to work on your own bike and your own bike costs

several thousand dollars yeah so plus it's always fun to like hear that click and be like there it is it is set

torque wrenches are fun to use these are satisfying yeah it's a nice piece of equipment to have yeah it is absolutely

that's right speaking of equipment to have how about this next question I think I want to go back to riding a

hardtail do you think I can still shred Park I say yeah bro

I only ride Park bro uh yeah um I have a hardtail and I haven't

rented any bike parks but it's fun or jumps yeah I think I could I

guess it depends I mean yeah I could ride it on whatever Trail you just pick your speed right and pick your lines more I mean you know if you could shred

Park before on a full suspension and you're going to hardtail you probably still can yeah absolutely definitely but

if all you're trying to do is shred Park and Ride Park then maybe you could get a full suspension bike yeah um however

like hardtails are awesome for a million different use cases you just got that y cycle zel Hefe hardtail that you're

loving I ride my gravel bike which is not really a gravel bike it's like a

rigid um it's a salsa Cutthroat that has 45C tires on it and a rigid Fork

um I think that's awesome like I love riding things when you when you don't have any suspension yeah or if you even

just don't have rear suspension you start picking lines more you know cautiously and it's definitely really

helpful to just like Advance your skills as a rider to not ride a full suspension bike for sure you have to think about

everything a lot more yeah yeah absolutely and they're just our deals are fun like just an absolute no loss

and power every time you pedal and they're light and yeah they're just a really fun bike to ride yeah so to

answer the question I say yeah you can still shred Park just you know it's gonna be a little different it's gonna

be a little different yeah true yeah go for it because hardtails are fun it's a good bike to have yeah

exactly and you can get in the game for a bit less money oh for sure oh yeah

that's right I mean if you if you're depending on your budget too if my budget was hmm I wonder how high I'd go if my

budget was my budget was like thirty five hundred dollars maybe even four thousand or

below I would get a hardtail really yeah

it's getting yeah it's getting really close to like four thousand dollar price point you can get a decent full suspension bike but tracker a giant or

but at least let's swim three thousand or below hard to 100 yeah

won't be good three grand for a common saw hardtails like a nice one we're getting like a pike earlier yeah I just

really like better Parts on a hardtail than I would like yeah mediocre Parts

including mediocre suspension yeah another suspension bike yeah I mean I would rather have nice Parts I think

we've had this conversation like yeah you know medium Parts on a carbon frame or high-end Parts on a alloy frame I'm

going to go high in Parts on Outlet frame all day long for sure yeah yep there you go

hardtail life it's a good one you should live it Jared's the kind of guy whenever he gets

a new bike he wants everyone else to get a bike really similar it's the best so you get a hard time with me bro let's go

let's go hard telling let's go hard killing man I only ride with other guys on our till so I guess I'll see you guys

another time another hard show I don't know oh man lamb who's gonna have an IPA

yeah seriously handle ball your mustache

oh man I thought I thought this next question was pretty good it's uh what's the official spelling for the SRAM x01

drivetrain is it x01 or x01 um so technically I think on their side

it's x01 right but everyone calls it x01 I don't know it just kind of sounds better say an x01 rather than x01 it's

like syllables yeah people adopted that they say it x01 yeah SRAM internally

right it's a very tomato tomato you can kind of say it however you want yeah Z is a harsh letter zero oh harsh

zero like Za nobody says any words with z z and R yeah pretty harsh letters I

guess this would be such a different conversation in Europe because everyone calls it Zed yeah

yeah that's even worse x01 it is a zero but it's used completely in

interchangeably and is totally acceptable uh for everyone wait a Zero's powerful zero Net Zero Z it's with a z

you're thinking of the accounting software that we use that's x-e-r-o got it yeah or Xerox or Xerox yeah

pronounce z and x and the same word yeah nerve of those people well just so you

know um I I control all of the uh super nerdy search results stuff on the worldwide Cyclery website and I've made

a synonym so whether you type in any query with x01 or x01 you'll get the

same results so this is important things and I'm sure Google has also figured that out too so well if you spelled it

out like all these was you still like if you spelled it out zero like the letter X space z-e-r-o space Oh no that's not

gonna work you're gonna have to do that I'm gonna create a cinnamon for that yeah next zero one so yeah it's excellent

It's x01 but pronounced x01 yeah pretty much yep which call whatever you want

gosh gosh what English guys gosh just gotta

make it more confusing all right I need a break yeah let's have an ad

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sense to offer Kettle with a lifetime warranty uh all the stuff at Kettle we are offering a lifetime warranty and

basically are repairing anything that ever gets damaged on the kettle gear side as well um because we just want to make really

good durable stuff that lasts forever and we believe in making good high quality apparel that lasts a long time

and does it make business sense that the size of kettle is now yes will it if we get to the size of Patagonia

I don't know I guess we'll figure out when we get there and might have to pull that back in but I hope not I I think

the goal is is we want to make good stuff that actually lasts a long time it doesn't promote consumerism but rather like useful uh versatility in products

that you have less things in your closet that last you longer and do more and now back to the show I thought this was a

especially hilarious but perhaps accurate question do any of the Amish in Lancaster

Pennsylvania where you have a location own high-end bikes and if not can you

find out if that's breaking the Amish rules you should know this I okay so here's

the thing uh uh all of us are from Southern California that's where we started worldwide Cyclery

um after was it it's five years in business we opened up our second location in Lancaster Pennsylvania it's

pronounced Lancaster yeah that's why I didn't say Lancaster yeah Lancaster is in California

Lancaster uh but so so we open allocation we did

that because as business scaled we were shipping a ton of product to the whole eastern half of the US and having a

location in Pennsylvania made a ton of sense we could ship stuff there a lot faster and more economically uh so it

was a win-win so we opened up a store in Lancaster Pennsylvania still there today it operates well it's awesome it's a

super huge benefit to the worldwide Cyclery customer experience for everyone that's on the East Coast that buys from us uh Lancaster somehow is well actually

not somehow I guess there's a few different ways so like that song Amish Paradise yeah famous song oh yeah so

that music video there's a horse and buggy that says Lancaster on the license yeah in Lancaster Pennsylvania became

very affiliated with Amish people and there is plenty of Amish people on the outskirts absolutely

uh the actual like Lancaster City and town is not oh there's no this is not

just normal yeah standard American town

they go into town but they're not listening to the podcast either so they're not listening to our podcast

um but but over the years so many people have been like Lancaster you go to shop in Amish Country like just I meant to

explain this a thousand times um and it's uh yeah that's pretty funny

but I think people from Lancaster Pennsylvania are kind of used to it so one of our guys there Aiden who works in

the store there he's a fantastic customer support rep you've probably talked to him if you're listening to this podcast and you've ever emailed or

called us uh he at one point he took our about us page and he photoshopped uh so

it's like there's a photo of the California store location and the Nevada store and then the Pennsylvania all the

employees yeah with all the employees and so then he took that page and then he just photoshopped out the Pennsylvania store normal employees and

you put in like an Amish family it was so funny I was cracking up

um that being said I don't think they own high-end bikes however what are they

telling us about the

yeah no but the Amish I don't think own high-end bikes right uh but weren't they

telling the stories about how like the kids were like basically pimp out their buggies

like speakers and stuff there's it's that whole Amish culture I'm absolutely

not an expert on it but I did when my mom came out to visit Pennsylvania one year

um we did do an Amish tour and we learned about the Mennonites and the pikers and the old order Amish and the New Order Amish and so I got a little

bit of a more insight into it and rum Springer which is the one week which that's didn't MTV have a show

Breaking Amish Breaking Amish I'm pretty sure it's called pretty Amish so I've heard of that yeah there's

uh it's I I don't have too many positive things to say about it feels a little bit more like religious oppression

that's okay like you said like we said they're not listening yeah I'm kidding have not yeah there's yeah

no I haven't seen any Amish on nice bikes but they do Ride Scooters um big wheeled scooters that have bike

tires on them I'm sure some of them have to have a bike or somebody's yeah

but see that would be more of like a Mennonite or a pike or or a [ __ ] there's like different variations it's

it's not as it's not as simple as meat CI because you said some are like allowed to use like drills and stuff wow

there's there's a thing about the the bishop whatever the bishop says goes right so we we actually went into uh an

old order Amish house that had no electricity run to the whole place um but they had those those like Ryobi

drills with the flashlight attachment all over that place

it was like okay so you can have these Ryobi drilled with the flashlight attachments but you can't have okay like

no yeah we're hooked up to solar we just charge it right out what you know wait no it's very strange and from what I

understood whatever kind of the bishop says goes so and there's different Bishops for sort of different communities in different areas and it's

so interesting I don't know we for sure offended someone by now so let's just yeah go to the next question hopefully not

something we are much more excellent than Xbox yeah yeah which Garmin watch

do you recommend for mountain biking yes you know what would be super clear is if uh Garmin not only offered a range

of running watches but a range of biking watches well they kind of do the same thing but

that's what I'm saying well they say it's like a running watch well like forerunners are they should at least like you know I don't know yeah Garmin I

think I've noticed on garmin's side actually in the last few months they've they've had this sort of watch finder oh she tries to I did see that yeah

um it seems to be works okay the the hard part is that there's just a lot of options and there's a lot of overlap and

um put it this way pretty much whatever garment watch you can buy is going to do what you need it to do and it's going to be awesome and you're gonna like it

however if you really want to dig into the weeds you can figure out all the overlap and all the different models and

then maybe find the exact one that you want so it's like do you want to record all of your bike activities and also

have a touch screen oh then you get the venue do you want to have a little uh do you want to have topo maps then you get

like the high-end Forerunner or the Phoenix series it's like there's all this over it's confusing but yeah so I

always recommended people um the forerunners the forerunners are awesome they're like originally sort of designed for triathletes and multi-sport

but they have all them out by activities built in there that's what both of you guys have right so those are awesome yeah so you have 945 and 955 I think so

then 45. so the high-end forerunners have turbo Maps which is killer if you use topo maps and you care about having

that on your watch that's really nice the lower end forerunners the 545 245 they're less expensive they pretty much

have all the good stuff with 7 45 or now it's the 755 because they've gone up from what we have yeah they don't have

them yeah so it's just like the top end Forerunner has the topo maps and then the phoenixes but yeah I mostly

recommend for people depending on their price point just get a like a forerunner 255 and it's like that's going to record

your activities it's got body battery like all these great features that track your sleep and all that sort of stuff

um and if you want to get bougie then like go to the top end Forerunner or the Phoenix series but I'm a huge Garmin fan

as I discovered Garmin watches and got really knowledgeable and fell in love with them I told everyone at the shop

about them and they're like what is odd that is awesome I'm gonna get one too and I think a lot like almost half of

the company maybe more than

it was also kind of like not so much like hey these are awesome but like your Apple watch sucks

yeah no it's like car wash is way better Apple watch sucks so what do you gotta charge that thing twice a day well we

it is and Apple watch is a cute little iPhone on your wrist a grammar watch is like a purpose-built watch for an outdoors person and or an athlete yeah I

ditched the Apple watch and I got my Garmin watch and I have not looked back since and now anybody with an Apple

Watch I'm like you got to get a Garmin watch yeah so you're the perfect use case right so you had an Apple Watch and you were like oh I can kind of record

Strava sort of on this thing but not really well yeah it got to the point where I was like trying to record a ride

that was basically what it was like more than four or five hours and I was like your watch and my my yeah my watch was

fully charged and didn't even last the whole ride and I was like all right that's that was the yeah it's just not the product for that right yeah so I was

like well now I have a grand watch that I charge once a week and it's amazing yeah which is kind of why Apple tried to

bridge it with that Apple watch Ultra but it's not quite there yet it's closer it's closer for sure if you're a uh

occasional athlete Apple watch Ultra is pretty cool yeah if you also want a little iPhone on your wrist but if

you're like a real athlete you're like actually really trying to track all your metrics and have accurate GPS data and long battery life and all that like you

gotta go Garmin yeah man care about having an iPhone on your wrist yeah yeah yeah I don't I I wouldn't just literally

never want notifications for my iPhone on my wrist that just seems like unbelievably extraordinarily distracting

even though the thing is already too distracting there are some use cases for it like when I was in the beer industry

and like you're doing something you have gloves on chemicals on your hands and like you actually want like just got a

notification you want to see what it is like but you could still do that with the Garment you could do the Garment which is not as like beautiful interface

and a touchscreen but like it's still there it's whatever but like yeah if that's what you want then I get it uh

and like that kind of apple ecosystem compatibility I guess but you know honestly that's one thing I I'm glad I

got away from with the Apple over the Garmin watch is just kind of Disconnect from the Apple crap whatever excuse me

and uh and just like a gopher ride disconnect not get any notifications and just track it yeah yeah

so here we go yeah current garmin's good stuff man yeah yeah I really enjoy those

things so they've made a huge benefit to my life having a good watch to track all my exercise all my sleep yeah all this

stuff it's really cool it's a good product yeah so Forerunner or Phoenix yeah depending on your budget yeah hands

down just look at those two categories or models yeah models and then sub models models sub models Sub sub models

Garmin has all of it Sub sub model oh geez uh before enter Phoenix yeah those are the ones if you're a mountain biker

that's the one yeah yeah if you don't want to watch um and you still want like all the Garmin stuff aside from like the

physiological tracking you can get Garmin bike computers which you used to have a while for a long time Liam right like a lot a lot of people I always had

a Garmin bike computer before this and then I have big ones and small ones and they always crapped out after a couple

months or years and then before I have this I went down the smallest one they ever made for like six months was like

the Garmin 25 or something like that 35 and it displayed my riding time my

elevation and my distance or something like that as simple as could be so anyone to eat and I knew how far I went

yeah but then I got to watch and now I'm sucked in the rabbit hole of the watch game so yeah nice yeah the Garmin bike

computers are cool but in the in the bike computer Market I think Garmin has a lot more competition they do whereas

in the actual uh GPS watch for an athlete Market Garmin has way less

competition like they're kind of you know it's like whoop gets all your physiological stuff but does absolutely nothing for GPS tracking and then Apple

watch does all your Apple stuff but like does absolutely nothing for your you know GPS tracking so it's yeah it's just

a different product yeah makes sense we could have a whole podcast on this but we shouldn't yeah unless Garmin pays us

yeah Carmen if you're willing to pay us we will do a podcast yeah no time for a Garmin ad yeah yeah not doing paid ads

unless garment Pages an obscene amount of money we're not talking like one free watch we're talking like watches for

Life yeah just kidding this whole thing [Laughter]

oh man awesome wow this is an excellent question is it yeah idea

if you were a band of mountain biking superheroes what would your names and superpowers be and who would you who is

your arch nemesis my name would be boosted Benny all right

and my superpower is boosting to the Moon wow and my arch nemesis

would be pinch flat Pat oh wow

what are you looking at me I didn't I didn't pre-think this one I didn't either I just thought of it right

now Liam had this just thought about it I would be uh weightless Jeff I could weightlessly float to the top of every

climb oh my arch nemesis would be heavy Henry good guy

hearts on his bike at all oh that's really good

um you know Liam you said this nickname the other day and it kind of resonated with me and I think my superhero name would

be whiskey Rick

my super power would be to have uh Trail appear in front of me wherever I please

the perfect ribbon of single track or whatever have you

um my arch nemesis could also be pinch flat Pat pinch flat

Pat throughout your day yeah probably give a better one than pinch

flat Pat right now um yeah that's a great question what about thorny Tony oh

thorny and thorny all right moving on let's get out of

this all right I have just purchased a new YT Jeffy oh my God I thought you okay you're

double Dublin yeah I am Dublin let's just say you crashed and your doctor says you can't ride for a few months okay it was me I crashed is there

anything I should do to my bike to have it sit idle for a couple of months the answer is definitely yeah I mean a

lot of people do that just because the off season yeah a lot of people don't ride their mountain bike for months at a time in the off season like what's

happening right now also known as winter yeah I mean what's that first yeah first

I'd probably take all the ceiling out of the tires and just let them like sit there with no ceiling them I'm just

gonna be sick yeah sealant will just like coagulate and turn into a mess and dry and you just enjoy yourself yeah so

just get your ceiling out of there just record it out of there pour it out clean it out yeah

um I mean take care of your suspension seals it's a good time for service so

service your suspension skills do any service that you've been putting off such as rebuilding your dropper post uh

your fork your rear shock headset bottom bracket some fresh tires fresh brake pads yeah take care of all this stuff

before all of that probably just make sure it's like perfectly cleaned and degreased too before you just put it

away for the winter or I guess that's kind of hard to do before you get hurt yeah depending on your injury if you've

got use of your hands or at least one hand you can start work on your bike a little yeah I don't know or take it in

the shop yeah have someone work on it for you make sure it's clean uh do all your little service bits yeah I mean I

think every time I've you know whether it's I guess I didn't really experience like a real off season because I don't live in a place with a heavy winter but

I have experienced some serious injuries and I've always taken that time to sort of reevaluate what's on my bike maybe I

should do brake pads and Seal Service and um maybe I should upgrade those cranks that I've been wanting to and so I know

I've kind of I've always ended up going down that rabbit hole when I've been injured um other really OCD things you can do is

keep your derailleur uh in the smallest Cog right so you don't have as much tension on those Springs you don't just

leave tension on the springs and leave your dropper post up yeah you should always leave your dropper post up smart

good tips yeah those ones are good as far as hanging your bike upside down I don't I don't ever do that I don't think

there's like I don't know how bad it is really it's like probably not it's probably negligible doesn't really matter to like hang your bike upside

down but yeah if there's a benefit or a native yeah if you have bad seals you're gonna leak but yeah yeah or like if your

brakes are poorly bled or if you have air bubbles they'll probably just be exposed at that point yeah I might upside down yeah realistically

if your bike is sitting out long mono breaks maybe you take your take the pads out tomorrow has this like

mystery of things where if you let the bike sit for what three weeks I don't know or more three weeks three months

it's it's Shimano dude it's just like where the where the lever bite point is it's a mystery as well so like yeah yeah

it's all mystery of Shimano it's weird I heard this you haven't heard this this is like an unsolved mystery so if you have Shimano breaks and you let the bike

sit for more than let's say two months yeah uh the brakes will be contaminated whoa they like leak it doesn't it's like

somehow some way some oil comes out of the Pistons and gets onto the pads which

doesn't make wow it's very confusing because then if if you even like pressure test it you can't get oil to

come out of the Pistons like you think okay there must have been oil leaking out of the caliper in the Pistons got on the brake

pads that's what happened when the bike sat for two months but you can't like recreate that but it happens to tons of

people it happened to me literally dozens of times it's super frustrating when people this used to be way more

common when people had downhill bikes and they put them away for the whole winter yeah bring them out for Bike Park season they come in and their Sherman

breaks are squealing wow it's like that's the reason why like they sat for two or three months and

then boom contaminated geez contamination fairy just comes out maybe that's March Nemesis contamination fairy

yeah comes out and just contaminates all the contamination Christopher that is oh

contamination Chris dude get out of here that's wild I I have not heard that but I guess it makes sense and just surfaces

the confusing thing is that's one of those things that like we've just never really been able to properly recreate

and it doesn't happen to all of them it happens to a lot of them and it's like one of those things where some people listen to us will be like oh I know the

people be like oh my God yeah like freak out they're gonna be like it's not BS these guys are well

what certainly told me it was real like it's a real thing on like old Shimano Z Shimano Saint yeah

like the xt's with a silver lever body yeah oh yeah that definitely did it yeah yeah wow yeah it is kind of strange the

more you know but I don't know I think it's tomorrow breaks though it doesn't happen to me oh you're smart of anything one of the reasons I don't what about

your fishing reel pedals I got off them one time oh you're right in times like Times by the way they're like right in

between Shimano and crank yeah yeah nice nice and they look cool

they do look pretty cool I actually went I got time eights first and it's more like a trail pedal because I no they

sent them to me so I was trying them out and then the time 12s is like their Enduro pedal and I actually paid for

those um they're not cheap so I paid I held off to make sure I liked the interface first then once I did I bought

them and they actually worked really well and have a lot of good engagement on the shoes so yeah I'm stoked to them

and I'd love to run Crank Brothers but I just can't get along with them so yeah nice

well all right let's jump the gun on this question so now you can really all right hop in there I'm gonna sink my

teeth into this one I have just purchased a new YT Jeffy core4 and I'm upping the front travel from 150

millimeters to 160 millimeters to experiment I have a fox 38 Factory with 170 millimeters of travel laying around

should I buy the 160 millimeter air spring for the 36 or the 38.

I'd say this kind of depends maybe on the rider's weight if you're over 200 the 38 might actually

have a benefit and give you a little bit more stiffness but if you're not and if you're not a super aggressive Rider

you're probably gonna have a better ride feel at 160 on the 36 than 160 on a 38.

or just yeah for regular trail riding which is like Hard Enduro or aren't you

concerned about weight definitely do the 36 yeah if you're concerned about the stiffness because of your size or riding situation do the 38 I think that Jeff

sees the one 40 rear travel bike I believe so

you know 140 with a 38 up front's a little over unbalanced maybe a little Overkill so I would probably go with the

36 personally yeah I guess it just depends on your intentions too right yeah yeah okay remember yeah rule yeah

we all we can always say it's situational but we also have to give the answer of what we do I I clearly would do the 36 because it's lighter and I

weigh 150 pounds yeah I guess if it is 140 travel like you said Liam then I guess I'd probably do the 36 also

but if it's more than that I'd probably think about doing 38. I already know you do the 36 too yeah I

would yeah I said that before you interjected oh sorry I wasn't paying

attention yeah what a nice guy

all right what is this uh uh some professional woodworker slash engineer

made a modern wooden frame DH frame would you ride it at Whistler bike park

um why not my life

what about what's the Worst That Could Happen didn't Fabio Wimber do that I don't know like riding a grandma bike at

a bike park or something and he did some massive drop on this ancient bike from the 70s or something and it broke in

half and I think he got hurt yeah you're like I think yeah I'm not selling this one I think it blew up like 20 Wheels

trying to film that thing yeah um you know if some like really gnarly engineer and woodworker made a DH frame

probably is gonna be okay for a few runs yeah um you know I don't know at that

point though you're also relying on wood which is not a cons you can't really test the consistency of wood

I'm not risking that I'm not doing that I'd ride around the parking lot do a couple bunny hops be like this is awesome but I'm not riding that they

didn't say what trail they didn't say you had to go send like dirt Merchant on it we're really getting into the Weeds

now I would rather ride bike trail like A-line on it and then go on any sort of

tech Trail you know what okay you can flow so gentle and A-line I'm sure you'd be fine on A-line with a wooden uh I

gotta tell a story because what about one of it you ever seen those wooden rims back in the day like old school

Roadies and like track bikes oh yeah those worked well they didn't seen one blow up yeah probably I mean there's a

lot of different types of wood too so yeah so at one point I think it was Digital Trends which is a pretty

prominent technology media outlet they posted this thing of like world's first

3D printed bike and they had this like little Instagram video and YouTube video of like the whole thing being 3D printed

and assembled and then right at the end it like shows the person getting on it and then like that's the end of the video

do you remember that I remember and I was like oh I'm I just I'm gonna troll this I couldn't help I couldn't help

myself so I like switched my Instagram account to the worldwide Cyclery account I go on there and I comment that I was

like I don't even remember what I said I was something to the tune of like this is unbelievable that you didn't ride the

bike at the end of this and then I reposted it on the worldwide Cyclery Instagram story which like thousands of people saw and then also saw that and

then also trolled it because like real mountain bikers saw it and they're like are you kidding me they're just like

briefly like a Quick Clip right yeah no not at all because clearly it didn't work yeah like if it did they would have

showed him riding it you know and I was like this is unbelievable you can't just like 3D print a bike out of polymer and

then not and then like make a big deal about the headline and then not ride it and I was like I'm gonna get real mountain bikers on this and troll them

and it actually worked it was really funny that was like two or three years but they never they never showed like no because it was like I mean obviously the

biggest fault was there were the hubs like the hubs the hub bearings there's like situations like that the bottom bracket chain yeah so it was like the

entire thing was 3D printed out of polymer so it's like some parts sure will work but other parts just won't

work and clearly that's why you didn't actually ride it and yeah I couldn't I couldn't help myself well the inner 13

year old in me was like I'm gonna go on the worldwide account comments this I gotta do something you get one troll a

year and that was it kind of reminded me which which was way cooler but it kind of reminded me of remember when Toyota I

was ghosted yeah just gonna say that so Toyota made that ad with the it was either Tacoma or Forerunner Tacoma I

believe maybe it was man oh because we just fully kitted out yeah it was like full Motocross here on a

Walmart bike yeah it was like spray painted all flat black people got the logos it was unbelievable it's so viral

and they got made fun of something so viral but then it's like okay did they actually just were ignorant and they

didn't know because they also sponsor mountain bikers like they sponsor the whole Yeti Factory team you know Toyota

does yeah um or were they like I don't think they'd pay to do that and spend money

but like you know it did get shared more in the mountain bike Community yeah because I don't think that was

intentional but you know what I mean though yeah I don't like were they throwing us or were we trolling there totally yeah I don't think I think some

PR firm some marketing firm they hired they just missed the money made a massive mistake had no idea that like

tons of actual mountain bikers own Tacomas myself included and that all

these mountain bikers were gonna be like this is utterly hilarious and reposted and went viral yeah it was so funny it

went viral the mountain bike Community yeah totally it was good that was hilarious I sent that to my buddy who like just got a 4Runner and he reads and

I was just like what's what happened here dude [Laughter]

for that I think they took it all down I think I took it all down yeah no I think I know what I said it was like how come

you didn't tell me that you're in this ad for it oh man it's funny so good uh this this

is a uh this is a hugely long question this next one yeah yeah a little bit of preface well yeah but this is about the

pink bike comments um and the float x2 in particular I don't know how do we summarize this question without having

to read the entire thing all right so if you take pink bike comments as a gospel which he says Pro or they say probably a

bad idea in general yeah that is probably a very bad idea to take Pink by comments as your gospel yeah

um but they're complaining about the reliability of a Fox Flow X2 and it's

now become a joke as if like the yeti dentist joke now it's like a bite comes specked with a float X2 it's like oh

that's gonna blow up it's so pretty much why is that shock so popular if a lot of

people have it and is it truly not reliable um and this question was worded well in

the sense of uh what what is it like lots of people have it so whatever percentage of people with

failures is higher amount than a normal than any other shock he finds it so hard to believe that it's unreliable yet also

so popular yeah which is a good point yeah so I'll just say the Fox Float X2 I

think is probably the best air shock on the market I think as the most

adjustment it's probably the best riding for aggressive Enduro riding or downhill riding

um that being said I think it probably lasts right around the service interval and then it kind of

starts yeah not any longer yeah yeah do you think that there's been a abnormally high amount of warranties on them I

don't do warranties so I don't really have my finger on that right now this is where this and a lot of other things get

kind of challenging in the bike industry is that it like if you were to look at this from a scientific perspective you'd

say like well only Fox knows and they're not gonna ever tell anyone this especially as a publicly traded company but like realistically they need to say

hey we produced X number of these and Y percentage had warranty issues where

they won't do that and so we literally have no idea if they produced 5000 or 50 000. yeah I don't really know I can

guess how many they made but Fox it's Global that shock shipped on a lot of bikes yeah so like is the is if it's a

one percent warranty rate which is totally acceptable and reasonable for a suspension products such as that if

they've shipped 50 000 of them one percent no big deal it's a good shock but

if it's like 15 then that's not acceptable and no wonder people are freaking out so it's a challenging thing

to figure out and I know that Chuck just recently on the yeti it was so it was fantastic I have one on my Crestline

um to me I think there's another line between failures and warranty as to

ridden really hard right um and you're at your service interval quicker than you think yeah uh which I

think is a probably a lot more common with this shock because it's specked on aggressive bikes yeah it's not spec on

your cross country bike right that's what I was going to say is I think that high level of people having these

experiences is is based on that like they're coming on aggressive bikes

um you know people are riding them hard and they're not servicing them like as soon

as they probably should be that's standing allergic to it and there's even more to it which you know we're gonna get down the weeds but like it also

shocks kind of last depending on how uh turned in your compression and rebound is

so you have to push oil through shim Stacks or um ports right so if you have

those more closed off it's actually forcing the shock to basically work harder yeah and therefore I'm still

gonna wear out quick so it's there's so many variables going into this you ride or wait too like

your terrain yeah there's so much stuff I would end it with fox has always stood

behind their products they have a great warranty situation if you buy from unauthorized Fox dealer then you'll be

able to warranty it if there's an issue um and service it at the right time yep exactly like don't avoid that shock just

because people on Pink by comments like to be controlled and viral and they can't afford it that's why they comment

well yeah oh that's like one quick moment of a

break before the next question oh meow meow Jared owns a cat how's your cat

dude do you like your cat she's great she's probably been chilling sleeping all day can't wait for me to get home

she loves it when I get home do you zukako by being Erickson did you give her your last name she's got the

dash or The Hyphen right now but uh yeah she's currently Sail on Erickson Ceylon Erickson yeah

yeah she gets compliments on The Hyphen that's right a movie I don't know if you've probably seen it but nope

over my head right over my head speaking of which all right one quick last

question and then we out of here how clean should my bike be when I drop it

in first service spotless brand new shouldn't have a speck of dust on it okay I no that was sarcastic

I kind of agree that your bike should be clean if you're gonna take it in for

service however uh if you don't have the proper equipment to clean it uh or you're

literally paying for a clean or service at all yeah well if you're paying for the clean then bring it in and ask them

to clean it and pay for the clean and like then they're like yeah great we're like we'll happily clean your bike yeah so I recall uh back when I was working

on a lot of people's bikes as a more traditional mechanic in a shop uh it it

was more convenient to me for them to bring the bike in dirty and then say yeah obviously I'm going to pay for a

clean and then can you do my XYZ service like that was convenient because then I could clean the bike I knew it was done

properly I knew what was I knew what I did yeah I knew if I degreased or didn't degrease or whatever so like as long but

what was annoying is when people were bringing dirty bikes and they'd be like well can you just true the wheels even

though they're covered in mud but like I'm not paying for it clean that's that's the problem don't bring in

a dirty bike and not pay for clean either a clean the bike before you bring it for service or B bring it in and make

it obvious like I would love to pay for a clean and then have you do the service there'll be anyone will be happy to clean your bike for you if you pay for

it they won't be happy if you try and skimp out on the cost of a bike wash and

then ask them to work on your dirty bike like that's the only uncool yeah I think in California I've told all the location

to do this but I don't know how much they enforce it but if it customer brings in a bike that's like obviously

kind of too dirty to work on we just tell them hey we're gonna wash your bike it's whatever 20 or 25 dollars you know

I don't know what it is but like a good solid clean like that's what we offer full wash you know scrub everything

professionally done you know air compress it off all the nooks and crannies um that being said as a mechanic it's

also nice to clean a bike because you get to see little stuff that you might not have noticed like you know

something's loose or this doesn't feel right or this isn't spinning you know properly so as you kind of watch the

bike it's kind of like a first check almost of um stuff to look at too so yeah you might get a better tune-up by

having them wash your bike or something's more worn perhaps then it looked like when it was dirty you're covered in mud or like a bike wash also

means a bike inspection yeah that's true yep thorough so I mean anything is acceptable just

the only unacceptable thing is to waltz in with the dirty bike and try and be like well I don't know it doesn't need

to clean but you can you still do X Y and Z like you install a brand new drivetrain on it yeah

the bike is covered in a mug and you've got dog poo on the tire and also like

I don't know if you wash your bike and you don't really have like scrubbers or I mean I don't really wash the bike

without an air compressor I try not to unless I'm like in the middle of nowhere traveling um because that makes a big difference

too get all in the water out of the nooks and crannies and bolts and stuff so you know maybe you don't have the

equipment to do a proper bike wash so yeah have have a professional do it have

a professional do it yeah yeah as long as you trust the professionalism of your local bike mechanic yeah true

otherwise you can become a bike mechanic yourself because it's not super hard yeah hey man

most things are not that hard no they're not it's not like it's not like working on a car that's actually easier I think

yeah for the most part until you get into like deep engine stuff and electrical yeah then you need like really I don't know man specifically

whatever I've changed the oil on my car and it's a lot harder than like anything on my bike no way no way changing the

oil in your car is not harder than flushing a brake fluid and doing a proper brake boost it's just more intimidating but it's the same thing

you're just loose you're really removing one bolt to drain the oil

I can just throw a towel under there and shimmy under there and yeah when I

worked at Ford and they showed me how to bleed brakes I was like wait that's it and they're like yeah what do you mean that's it I'm like well I hook up

syringes and I vacuum and I push and I do and close off this one and I open up this one and they're harder and I was

like this is cake dude this is a gravity bleed from Shimano that I learned like when I was 12. yeah you know like no

problem I got this so some stuff is much easier on a car yeah and bikes also have much more of like a finesse touch or

cars you can kind of be like a big you know strong hat you know campus that yeah brake pad in there totally yeah but

yeah like a nice bike stand and a some nice set of bike tools is a lot cheaper

than like a full-on lift stand for your car very true semantics semantics

what do you mean you don't down I don't have lift it on I do fits right in my

apartment garage yeah all right well last but not least or as

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